Bravo Tuning Club

Hello! I already intoduced myself in the International section and after reading you're topics and projects I found out that you have done a lot more engine tuning.

That's why I hope you can help with my MKII HGT and from reading you're i'm interrested in two options:

* Upgrading it the Leone Motor Sports way. (2500cc and 220cv - possible on a MKII?)
* Place a 20v Turbo engine from a Coupe with a 6-speed gearbox.

I'm willing to drive to Italia to have these conversions done. So my question is do you have information of where this can be done and has this been done?
Because my Italian is not good enough to understand what you are writing it is hard to collect information so I hope you guys can help me

I know there's Leone motor sports in Roma, as you said...

i know that the 6 gearbox can only be found in a fiat coupè limited edition, and it's difficult to find one..

for the two options...

i prefear turbo, because with the original motor you have at least 150hp, and it's easy to upgrade...

and you have a turbo!!!

with the upgrading of the cylinders capacity, it's a good way, but it's a stress for the original engine and transmission..


although a turbo is more clear at eyes if a policeman asks you to open the bonnet!

so, if you have many money, why don't take a 2000 turbo 20V and upgrade to 2500cc?

can you imagine?

2500cc turbo... maybe the best...

DaveDevil ha scritto:I know there's Leone motor sports in Roma, as you said...

i know that the 6 gearbox can only be found in a fiat coupè limited edition, and it's difficult to find one..

for the two options...

i prefear turbo, because with the original motor you have at least 150hp, and it's easy to upgrade...

and you have a turbo!!!

with the upgrading of the cylinders capacity, it's a good way, but it's a stress for the original engine and transmission..




although a turbo is more clear at eyes if a policeman asks you to open the bonnet!

so, if you have many money, why don't take a 2000 turbo 20V and upgrade to 2500cc?

can you imagine?

2500cc turbo... maybe the best...

I Agree, best solution (and more cheap one) is change engine with turbo engine, 2000 20v turbo, more torque easy choose, better result, and easy to upgrete in future! 5 geare is ok! But if you find 6 gear is better!! Maybe you can keep your gear, maybe is more short than Coupe and 0-100 km/h....

Hahaha oke so you rekkon a Turbo engine is a better and cheaper solution?

If so I have to find someone who can rebuild my car to a 20v turbo... That is going to be a quest trough Holland hahaha.
I only want the 20v turbo with 6 gears because those gears are shorter in the lowest gears!

In Holland it is legal to change youre engine but you have to get youre car checked by an official station and you get a new license plate.


Now I have to find a Coupe Plus of LE

FCS ha scritto:Hahaha oke so you rekkon a Turbo engine is a better and cheaper solution?

If so I have to find someone who can rebuild my car to a 20v turbo... That is going to be a quest trough Holland hahaha.
I only want the 20v turbo with 6 gears because those gears are shorter in the lowest gears!

In Holland it is legal to change youre engine but you have to get youre car checked by an official station and you get a new license plate.


Now I have to find a Coupe Plus of LE

HOLLAND ruseS !!!

in italy you can't change the engine


for help you; only vincenzodileo can help you in your question!

his bravo HGT in without turbo!! 220 HP with the original hgt engine worked by leone in rome !!

austin81 ha scritto:in italy you can't change the engine

that's not true...

if you want, you can ask to the TUV... it costs a lot of money, but it's the (only) way...

or you can sell you car to a german... omologate the engine... and re-buy the car

austin81 ha scritto:for help you; only vincenzodileo can help you in your question!

his bravo HGT in without turbo!! 220 HP with the original hgt engine worked by leone in rome !!

but he isn't anymore in our forum...

DaveDevil ha scritto:

austin81 ha scritto:in italy you can't change the engine

that's not true...

if you want, you can ask to the TUV... it costs a lot of money, but it's the (only) way...

or you can sell you car to a german... omologate the engine... and re-buy the car

austin81 ha scritto:for help you; only vincenzodileo can help you in your question!

his bravo HGT in without turbo!! 220 HP with the original hgt engine worked by leone in rome !!

but he isn't anymore in our forum...

quella del tuv per omologare il motore mi è nuova....
io conosco gente che omologa cerchi e parti estetiche!
avevo già chiesto per il motore; ma loro mi hanno detto di no!

per il secondo discorso della germania; uno dovrebbe avere un amico/parente in germania...

per vincenzodileo dovrebbe ritornare!

austin81 ha scritto:quella del tuv per omologare il motore mi è nuova....
io conosco gente che omologa cerchi e parti estetiche!
avevo già chiesto per il motore; ma loro mi hanno detto di no!

per il secondo discorso della germania; uno dovrebbe avere un amico/parente in germania...

per vincenzodileo dovrebbe ritornare!

in teoria dovrebbero omologarti qualsiasi cosa, dato che fanno esattamente il "discorso della germania", solo che fanno tutto da soli, ovviamente a prezzi estremamente alti...

sarebbe curioso sapere se l'omologazione è possibile, e a che prezzi, in olanda, dato che li ho parenti con cittadinanza...

Mi pare che ci sia almeno un utente internazionale dall'olanda quindi prova a chiedere a lui